...what I mean is anything can be art, but at the same time not anything can tell the story of what you want to tell. Not everything can be expressed in the way that you want to express it. 
Right.
So I don’t know how to describe what I actually do. I just do a lot of stuff. I love the art-making process, I love that all these different mediums that I have been working in have a different approach: a different way of presenting a performance, a music video, Facebook entry, YouTube clip, a painting, a text, a drawing, smell, or massage lotion; at a gallery, at a museum, at a fair, at a festival, on the street, at the dinner table, at a farm, at a skatepark, at a venue, or in the airport. 
So they’re equal?
I don’t think they are equal and I am not saying one thing is more important than the others. There are different ways of approaching things, showing things, showing your work—to who—if you are an artist. 
You’re the kind of artist where your day-to-day life is a big part of your work. 
Yeah. 
Does that come naturally to you?
I probably studied some artists who work that way, like Isadora Duncan and Ono Yoko. I like the freedom and enjoy living the life. So, yeah, it comes naturally to me. Lately I care less about what art is. I simply want to be more of an honest person: a 20-year-old Korean immigrant, who went to public community college in America and was awarded a scholarship to a private art school, who likes art, wants to travel all around the world, likes nature, and mostly living in New York, meeting friends... Entertaining is important too, as an artist. Recently, I enjoyed reading I Am Ozzie a lot. 
How come?
Because he is so honest and entertaining. He is a funny dude who was in the first metal band. He was so into it, but at the same time, he didn’t make any music. He didn’t even write the lyrics. He could be so fake, but from reading his autobiography he is obviously so amazing as a person. He is earnest and caring. He has such a good personality. He became a celebrity. He is an amazing performer. In the beginning he confesses he doesn’t know how to read and write, so he has someone helping him. He doesn’t have any shame. He doesn’t hide or anything. I think that is really fun.
But you’re not against education. 
I think learning is always really important, fun, and opens your mind. I think people are important, families are important. Being near nature. Hustling is really bad. This is kind of a new idea to me. I never tried to make money before, but now I want to. With my artwork I never thought of selling, being professional at it, or having it as a career. I never thought having a career was important. I really thought making good artwork was really important. I still think that but also... 
Now you want to have a career?
Now I want to have both. [Laughs.]
Who do you think is going to give you money?
I don’t know. I think about making money, like printing ca$h. You can never make money doing labor. You can make money selling or buying something. Buying a product, you are not only acquiring the actual physical thing, you are buying the idea too. This is really interesting. I am also thinking about enjoying making art, but being professional. 
With making art?
Yeah, that idea really doesn’t make sense at all, but I am into it... I think the Fluxus idea came from being against what they had learned and experienced before. They were trying to be rebellious.
They were also rejecting the gallery system as it existed.
I agree. I have also been reading these urban fiction books, listening to rap, and thinking about all this different culture. I have been thinking not only about artwork but culture. When I studied crust punks, most of them are from privileged backgrounds and they are being rebellious towards how they grew up, or the idea that they had, or the idea that their parents had. They are against materialism and I think that makes sense and that is right. At the same time when I listen to rap, they are being really, really materialistic. Most of these kids who rap didn’t have much material comfort growing up. That is why what they are saying is very materialistic: humans desire what they lack, opposing their backgrounds or where they come from. I think all these different groups of subcultures have their own beliefs, but their reasons are very, very similar—being rebellious. I have been hating DIY shows and venues lately, and DIY is me. I go to DIY shows a lot. I have worked, played, made many friends at most DIY venues in NY.
Sometimes I really hate the venues you play at. 
Yeah, I really don’t like it anymore, either. 
Why?
I just don’t like the idea of DIY, how they put the alphabet D-I-Y. I think it is bullshit, because it is not Do It Yourself at all. Whenever I go to shows they make me very lonely and not happy, as if they are telling me, "Why can't you do it by yourself and bring us only the good parts?" Nobody seems to care about what I do or what other people are doing. It just happens so easily and disappears. Not all of them but most of them. I feel like people in the community only care about themselves.
Why did you go to those places?
Because I like doing it myself. Also I admire artists who do it themselves. There are a lot of performers and a lot of shows that I was really engaged into. 
Like which ones?
I loved Lightning Bolt. I was really impressed when I went to their show at Death By Audio. I was heartfully (viscerally?) impressed by Brian Chippendale. He mostly plays DIY venues. I think the idea of DIY is amazing, you know. I'm just breaking out at my own pimple on my face.
A lot of my friends won’t go to DIY shows. 
I know. DIY is special. You don’t have the same kind of quality night. Their drinks are shitty, hot, smelly, dirty and somewhat expensive, but you can experience thousands of shooting stars sensually.
Do you want a more glamorous situation?
No, I just want to learn, make good stuff, and share stuff. I want a business. I don’t want to have two jobs. I want to have a way of making money with what I do. It's a hustle but it can be really fun.